Kenneth Hite ([info]princeofcairo) wrote,
@ 2008-09-16 15:52:00
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Entry tags:art, film talk, literary theory, westerns

We Need A New Kind Of Awesome
So to celebrate my birthday yesterday, I went up to the North Side and ate pho and saw Takashi Miike's Sukiyaki Western Django, a hugely enjoyable mashup of chambara and spaghetti-Western films into an explosion of weird, postmodern spectacle that at times looks more like Baz Luhrman than Takashi Miike, with costumes blending designer post-apocalyptic, 1970s-era Western, and Harajuku.

The movie concerns the war of the Heike (Taira) and Genji (Minamoto) clans, but the characters often refer to it as the War of the Roses, and the head of the Heike clan even renames himself "Henry". It's set in "Nevada," the subtitles explain, as they show the Japanese lettering on the wind-eroded Western sign over the town. The Reds and Whites have two giant Japanese tea-houses as headquarters, in the middle of a Western town straight outta Don Siegel.

The movie itself sets you up; almost the first line of dialogue after the credits (there's an extended tribute to the sound-stage Western tradition at the beginning, starring Quentin Tarantino) is something like "Best not get any ideas about playing Yojimbo on us, man." A sloppy, freewheeling remake of Yojimbo (out of Fistful of Dollars) immediately ensues, with occasional thefts from (or nods to) Corbucci's original Django among other movies.

But is it actually any good? This is the question posed by really great mashups like this that are, nonetheless, magpie nests or Frankenstein art: for example, the Venture Brothers. Even the crummiest spaghetti-Western knockoff, or cheesiest pop song, or lamest piece of French Academy historical painting, is saying something. Are mashups saying anything, or are they just commenting "I like Sergio Leone and samurai," or "Hey, 'Genie in a Bottle' has the same beat as a Strokes song." And where is the line -- is Kill Bill a mashup, or a reinterpretation? Is Grindhouse a mashup, or a tribute, or just cynical exploitation? And who's to say that cynical exploitation can't be art -- someone out there was moved by Monkees songs, after all, and I can attest to the saving power of the Sex Pistols. On a slightly more elevated note, does anyone really think that Shakespeare cared as much about The Merry Wives of Windsor, a ground-out Falstaff sequel to order, as he did about Henry IV, Part Two, in which Falstaff achieves uttermost heights of drama? Is there a difference between Falstaff and Django? I don't know. I know that I believe that Art comes from somewhere, and can come out in the oddest places. But I think we need (at least) two different kinds of awesome, to differentiate Django from "Django," and Jonny Quest from Venture Brothers, even though (or especially because) Venture Brothers is way more awesome than Jonny Quest.




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[info]st_rev
2008-09-16 09:40 pm UTC (link)
One might argue that the mashup functions as a formal constraint on the artistic process, like the sonnet form, though it's obviously much closer to the cut-up and the collage.

Edited at 2008-09-17 02:28 am UTC

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ooh!
[info]altgrave
2008-09-21 08:58 pm UTC (link)
that's clever! pay no attention to my avatar, either - i'm absolutely serious.

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[info]muskrat_john
2008-09-16 09:42 pm UTC (link)
Have you seen Cirque Du Soliel's "Love," in Vegas?

The music is essentially a mashup of the Beatles, with the Beatles.

I found it captivating and brilliant (and yes, awesome), even in spite of a couple dozen silly French Canadians prancing about onstage.

To an extent, despite the creators' best intentions, all art is strictly in the eye and the mind of the audience, or the beholder. Does a mashup of the Clash ("The Card Cheat") and Christina Aguilera ("What a Girl Wants") say something new and different to an audience? In my case, yes. YMMV. In much the same way, does the actual cover of "London Calling" speak to an audience, essentially mashing Elvis' debut album with a more urgent, violent face of rock?

Are a lot of mashups meaningless drivel, because some kid with too much software on their hands thought the beats were similar? Absolutely. But in the best mashups, I've discovered relevance and urgency in music I'd never have thought to look before.

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[info]zonemind
2008-09-16 09:58 pm UTC (link)
It's like the echo of an echo from a foreign land about which I know little. I can see, however, that the "one size fits all" anthropology of previous ages will actually be applicable in future ones.

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[info]gmskarka
2008-09-16 10:01 pm UTC (link)
I've been meaning to watch Sukiyaki Western Django for a while now, ever since it was pointed out to me during my initial explorations of my Far West concept (which I'm still working on as a novel, currently, having abandoned the RPG attempt for the time being). I've got a off-region DVD version, but haven't watched yet.

Back to your larger topic, though -- I have no problem considering mashups on their own merits, as "saying something." They've been around longer than the term, after all -- the "mashup" idea forms the basis of hip-hop, pop art, collage, the Dadaist poetry of Tristan Tzara, the works of William Burroughs, etc. -- and I don't think that many folks have a problem recognizing that the older forms did "say something."

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[info]beamjockey
2008-09-16 10:20 pm UTC (link)
-- someone out there was moved by Monkees songs, after all,

It was me.

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[info]martinl_00
2008-09-16 10:47 pm UTC (link)
There is very little art that doesn't steal liberally from past art, and even less *good* art that doesn't. Interesting art doesn't even have to add anything new, although that certainly helps.

Mash-ups just are more obvious and less varied about the sources stolen from than usual.

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[info]thebitterguy
2008-09-17 01:09 am UTC (link)
Well, happy birthday, then.

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[info]richardthinks
2008-09-17 02:50 am UTC (link)
Sounds interesting - the visual style alone looks to be worth the price of admission.

And in commemoration of your birthday, I got you this empty threat.

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[info]fallorn
2008-09-18 06:35 am UTC (link)
Happy Birthday, and Go Team Venture!

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[info]byzantine_ruins
2008-09-20 03:34 am UTC (link)
Would you know yet more?

Only his seeming is banished, and the concensus among those I judge wise is that he will return very soon. Lord Gozur's next manifestation will be that of an parabolically growing Treasury yield. Look for the day-on-day closing of the short term Federal paper market to mark his return.

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[info]altgrave
2008-09-21 09:54 pm UTC (link)
you had me worried, until that last sentence. i might go so far as to say that "jonny quest" is differently awesome, though.

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